Perki: How,
what and/or who started you on the road to training for distance?
Caroline:
I had been tracking Phillyfit online for a year before I joined. That year, my daughter Seraphina was only 1
and I wasn’t ready to leave her for the time it would take to commit to this
fully. In 2012, I decided it was time to take care of the baby weight and
myself and my husband was able to be a support in helping me carve out the time
every Saturday and on runs during the week.
P: What is
your motivation?
C: I wanted
to set a goal and see the transformation. It wasn’t really about the marathon.
It was about losing weight gained during pregnancy (I was finally able to get into my
pre-pregnancy jeans by October!) and committing to a physical practice. It
became a mental exercise as much of a physical one. It was an accomplishment to
be able to find time for myself in the midst of working full time and parenting.
It gave me the ability to in some ways gain my identity back as an individual
as well as a mother.
P: What was
your hardest lesson during this time?
C: I think
it was learning that it’s not just about any individual day. You have to shake
off the bad days and move on to the next. Training is about consistency not a
good run. I learned this in the beginning of October. We were running only 10
miles and I felt horrible. It was cold, I wasn’t properly dressed, it was an
awful run at the
P: Tell us
about a EUREKA !
moment.
C: It was
my first 16 mile run. 14 miles into it there was this moment where I realized
that the body sort of goes away and your mind is doing the running. It’s not
there is no feeling or pain but there is a kind of hypnosis that takes over. It
almost would actually be more effort to stop that to continue.
P: I’d
like to talk about your hike of the Appalachian Trail .
When did you and your husband do this?
C: In 2008
we started to wonder if we would ever be in a position to retire and travel and
realized that maybe instead we would try to “retire” for a year and live a
dream we had for a long time. So we spent a year working double and triple jobs
and left in the fall of 2008 to volunteer in Central America for 6 months, and
hike the
We began in Guatemala, and volunteered in each country for 6
weeks each, working with nonprofits ranging from orphanages to building homes
for squatter communities to a botanical garden in exchange for a place to stay
and a communal meal and connection with the community . During the weekends we
would travel, and see some of the amazing volcanoes, lakes, beaches and towns
each country had to offer.
After that, we flew back to the US
and began the Appalachian Trail in Georgia on April 10 and finished on
September 15, 2009. Actually, the day we summitted the final northern mountain
terminus, Mt. Katahdin, it was grey and overcast, so we decided to do it all
over again the very next day, the 16th just to see a clear view.
Before this experience, I was a reluctant fan at best of
overnight backpacking. Some years
earlier in our relationship, we decided to a 100 mile hike in the Maine woods. It was the
hardest thing I had done, and mainly mentally. After lots of times of wanting
to turn back and find a road somewhere back to civilization, I began to realize
what a transformative experience hiking could be: on a physical, mental and
spiritual level. I had been a smoker for
10 years before that, and was able to quit during this time. At the end of the
trip, my husband proposed to me, and so I guess the experience was enough to
attempt 2100+ miles almost 4 years later.
P: What
else can you tell us about preparing for this? Were there items you wished you
had brought and didn’t? Or items you did bring but didn’t need?
C: Mainly,
it was about the realization of how little you really need to do something like
this. We started out with 55 pound backpacks each at the beginning. By the end
we had 25 lbs each, including water. Every 3 or 4 days you’d come to a town and
the urge there was to stock up, but it really wasn’t necessary. For example,
you’d think fancy rain gear would be a necessity when you are spending 6 months
walking all day. But in the end, all you
really did was sweat in it so a trash bag was better and a lot dryer.
P: What
other challenges did you find during this journey?
C: It was
difficult to get away from the mindset that you have in ‘real’ life, which can
be very focused on time, and achievement, and conquering challenges, and
sometimes about multitasking or doing things quickly. Success on the trail
wasn’t about how many miles you did that day or how many days you were on the
trail for. It was best when you let it teach you and respect the way others
were approaching their journey. There is a saying on the trail that is repeated
“Hike your own Hike”. In short, allowing
each person to choose their journey in their own way.
P: Which
direction did you travel?
C: We went
from South to North. Most people do and about 2000 people begin the trek each
year with about 500 who finish. Only about 250 go from North to South due to
the immense challenges that occur in the North with weather and higher that
need conditioning.
P: Where
did you sleep? Did you camp or where there places set up for that?
C: There
were shelters every 10 miles. However, we didn’t want to be trapped into those
10 miles so we camped a lot in our own tent.
P: What
else would you like people to know about this adventure.
C: It
doesn’t take a super hero or a super fit person or someone with lots of freedom
or time to do this. If you have the idea and want to take the chance you can do
it, even if it’s a little bits at a time. It is about setting a goal and then
follow it through to the end. Hiking the trail was about being present in the
moment. We spent 12-16 hours a day doing nothing but hiking. It was very
fulfilling in emotional, physical and spiritual ways. I was in the best shape
of my life just from walking consistently every day.
It was also interesting to see that women tend to fair
better than men on the long distance trail. Our bodies are better suited to it
given a greater percentage of body fat to change into muscle mass. Men, like my
husband, lose too much and often look emaciated at the end of the trail. On the
other hand, I gained intense muscle mass in my legs, and most women ended up
staying the same weight, but with a low amount of body fat, and high amounts of
muscle.
Finally, I want to encourage people to do this if they have the desire. It was a truly transformative experience. Some people do the trail in pieces. They complete section hikes over a period of years.
P: Thank you. Now for the final questions of
our interview. What is your favorite sound in training?
C: The
rhythm of other people’s breathing. It was like a chorus. And if someone else
was breathing hard and I wasn’t, I felt maybe I was doing ok.
P: What is
your least favorite sound in training?
C: Cars
honking and someone blowing a snot rocket.
P: What is
your favorite workout?
C: Meeting
at the Collegville diner and running to the dog park. I found it very scenic
and peaceful and varied.
P: What is
your least favorite workout?
C: When we
went to Wissahickon. I live closer to there than the Perkiomen Trail but it
never worked out for me. I got lost, I ran out of gas.
P: If you
could spend a day with any athlete present or past, who would it be? Why?
C: John
Carre. He is a very Buddha type of person. He would always manage to say the very
thing that would bring my energy back. He never complained and approached every
run with excitement and as if it would be easy- not smugly, but in an
encouraging way. And when I was struggling his attitude was one of quiet
acceptance of where I was at and support.
P: When
it comes to your training or racing what would you love to hear someone say to
or about you?
C: That
I set a challenge for myself and kept at it; and that when I achieved it, that I
set another.
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